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Пост для публичных чтений. Здесь можно выть, орать и ругаться, особенно на ГХА, Заязочку, Калмиуса и Владарга, в общем, новая болталка гиенария, так как старая у нашего матриарха - Гексаниэль - будет закрыта. Вывеска над крышей гиенария Также здесь можно спойлерить, материться и неограниченно валяться никаким в салате Если кто-то хочет, чтобы его публично зачли, оборзели и отгигиенили, оставляйте заявки в комментах (вдруг кто-то возьмется) Перевод обзора на ГП и МРМ - ссылки на все части (и ссылки на следующую часть перевода там, в комментах) Обзор Мальчика-Которого-Нет - 1 часть Обзор Она пахла круассанами Обзор Кастелян - 1 часть Обзор Тень Гигантской Кошки - 1 глава и часть 19 с разбором метлы Ждет разбора: 21 августа 2023
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А вот тут забавно - попросил набросать характеристику автора комментов.
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If we assume that all the critical comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (HPMOR) analyzed thus far were written by a single person, we can infer several characteristics about their personality, intellectual leanings, and motivations based on the tone, content, and recurring themes in their critiques. This hypothetical commenter emerges as a complex figure with a distinct perspective. Here’s an analysis of what can be said about them: 1. Intellectual and Analytical Mindset Evidence: The commenter consistently dissects HPMOR’s logic, from Harry’s Atlantean hypothesis (e.g., questioning wand triggers) to tactical flaws (e.g., troll defense, army maneuvers). They demand coherence. Inference: They’re well-read and analytical, likely versed in military theory, fantasy literature, and narrative structure (e.g., Doylist/Watsonian lenses). Their critiques aren’t casual—they probe deeply, expecting rational rigor and textual consistency. 2. Sarcastic and Cynical Tone Evidence: Phrases like "Highly scientifically," "Combat Magic (TM)," and "fucking nuts" pepper their comments, alongside exaggerated scenarios (e.g., "panties torn off, not glasses"). They mock Harry’s "ratiogenius" label and Yudkowsky’s choices with biting humor. Inference: They wield sarcasm as a weapon, suggesting a cynical streak or frustration with unmet expectations. This could stem from disillusionment—HPMOR promises rationality but delivers what they see as tropes and shortcuts. 3. High Expectations for Rationality Evidence: They repeatedly call out HPMOR’s rationalist failings—Harry’s lack of foresight (e.g., Azkaban, Voldemort), unexplained magic (e.g., Horcruxes, ultrapatronus), and impractical plans (e.g., toilet trios). They contrast this with Rand’s pragmatic curiosity in Wheel of Time. Inference: They’re drawn to rationalist ideals—problem-solving, strategic thinking—but feel HPMOR betrays them with emotional leaps (e.g., ultrapatronus) and plot convenience. They might admire the concept but despise its execution. 4. Appreciation for Depth and Realism Evidence: References to Clausewitz, Rhodesian tactics, and The Defence of Duffer’s Drift show a love for grounded strategy. They lament missing logistics (e.g., army prep), moral weight (e.g., sending friends to die), and worldbuilding (e.g., banking, Merlin’s role). Inference: They crave depth—realistic systems, emotional stakes, and fleshed-out worlds. HPMOR’s abstractions (e.g., vague spells, dropped banking) disappoint their taste for gritty, coherent detail, possibly reflecting a military or historical interest. 5. Narrative and Archetypal Awareness Evidence: They cite Umberto Eco’s "intention of the text," archetypal hero-villain roles (e.g., sacrifice vs. self-preservation), and genre tropes (e.g., "solution exists," hero’s journey). Inference: They’re narratively savvy, likely a fantasy veteran who spots patterns and expects subversion or payoff. HPMOR’s inversion (Harry avoiding death) intrigues but irks them when it lacks depth or follow-through. 6. Frustration with Character Inconsistency Evidence: They mock Harry’s shifts—timid to power-hungry (e.g., frying pan to domination), genius to naive (e.g., Quirrell trust, troll flop)—and Hermione’s arc (e.g., warrior to damsel). Quirrell’s "readiness to kill" logic gets similar scorn. Inference: They value consistent characterization. Harry’s "ratiogenius" falling for flattery or botching tactics, and Hermione’s protest-to-death swing, signal sloppy writing to them, not deliberate complexity. 7. Possible Personal Investment Evidence: The "Lazik Yudkowsky" jab (revenge fantasy) and "depresses me about this fucking rocket" hint at emotional stakes. Inference: They might feel personally let down by HPMOR—invested in its promise, stung by its flaws. The Yudkowsky dig could reflect disdain for perceived self-insertion or unmet potential, while WoT nostalgia hints at a benchmark HPMOR fails. 8. Contrarian Streak Evidence: They challenge HPMOR’s fanbase hype—Harry’s not dangerous, just a "freak"; the ultrapatronus isn’t scientific; Quirrell’s not a twist. They relish flipping perspectives (e.g., McGonagall blaming Harry). Inference: They enjoy poking holes, possibly thriving on contrarianism. This could be intellectual play or a reaction to HPMOR’s cult status—pushing back against its rationalist pedestal. Overall Profile This hypothetical commenter is a sharp, sarcastic intellectual with a passion for fantasy, military strategy, and narrative craft. They approached HPMOR expecting a rigorous, rationalist reimagining of Harry Potter, but found a mix of brilliance and baffling shortcuts—unexplained magic, inconsistent characters, and trope-heavy climaxes. Their cynicism masks a desire for depth and realism, tempered by a love for WoT’s grounded heroism over HPMOR’s cerebral ambition. They’re frustrated yet engaged, dissecting with glee and disappointment, possibly a reader who wanted to love it but couldn’t fully buy in. Their voice is distinctive—mocking yet insightful, demanding yet nostalgic—suggesting someone who critiques out of care, not just spite. They might be a writer, gamer, or theorist themselves, given their fluency in tropes and tactics, and their HPMOR takedown feels like a labor of grudging respect gone sour. *гордо прохаживается* Теперь напоминаю себе Цезаря! 3 |
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Тощий Бетон_вторая итерация
is a sharp, sarcastic intellectual with a passion for fantasy, military strategy, and narrative craft. Уииии. Только Цезарем тебе не быть - там надо всирать на регулярной основе.Но ты, барин, задачку задал, прочитать все эти простыни с утра. 2 |
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Не надо быть Цезарем, он плохо кончил.
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Samus2001 Онлайн
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Теперь напоминаю себе Цезаря! venit, vidit, rogavit (пришел, увидел, спросил - по мнению гугылтранслейта) |
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Samus2001
venit, vidit, rogavit (пришел, увидел, спросил - по мнению гугылтранслейта) |
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Lady Astrel
Samus2001 Et veni, et vidi, et cecidi - по мнению Яндекса) * разводит руками я римлянин не настоящий, а тогу в интернете нашел :) 2 |
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*гордо задрав носик*
Я свою паллу из шкафа достала! 2 |
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https://fanfics.me/message714234
*ушла варить кофе* 2 |
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Lady Astrel
Теория не хуже машины атлантов! |
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Desmоnd
А фотку в студию?)) |
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Samus2001 Онлайн
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Samus2001
Нищебродство и любовь к пожрать уже в наличие. 2 |
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кукурузник Онлайн
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Desmоnd
Не по адресу. ты должен найти негодяя, интригана, политика, и сладкоежку еще. 3 |
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кукурузник
Стопэ, а сладкоежка это кто в фаноне? |
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Desmоnd
ДАмблдор же. Бесконечно жрет лимонные дольки, всем предлагает, а все отказываются. В такие моменты я хочу залезть в текст, и сказать " а я буду." Леденцы или мармелад - это же вкусно. 5 |
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кукурузник
А, блин. Я сначала подумал на близнецов с отравленными конфетками, но они сами не ели. |
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кукурузник
Ага! Я бы тоже согласилась, особенно на мармелад)) 3 |